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Wednesday, December 31, 2014

Even Jesus' Own Brothers Did Not Believe in Him



Even Jesus' own brothers did not believe in Him. (John 7:5)




Jesus and the Feast of Tabernacles

And sometimes they thought Jesus was crazy. 
Jesus entered a house. Again a crowd gathered. It was so large that Jesus and his disciples were not even able to eat. His family heard about this. So they went to take charge of him. They said, "He is out of his mind." (Mark 3:20-21)
That is a reasonable reaction.  How would you feel if your brother said things like:
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6)
But after Jesus' death, resurrection, and ascension, we see that His brothers changed their opinion about Him.
The apostles... all came together regularly to pray. The women joined them too. So did Jesus' mother Mary and his brothers.  (Acts 1:12,14)
What caused their change in attitude about their brother Jesus?  Paul gives us a hint in 1 Corinthians 15:3-7.
What I received I passed on to you. And it is the most important of all. Here is what it is:
  • Christ died for our sins, just as Scripture said He would.
  • He was buried.
  • He was raised from the dead on the third day, just as Scripture said He would be.
  • He appeared to Peter.
  • Then He appeared to the Twelve.

  • After that, He appeared to more than 500 believers at the same time...

  • He appeared to James.
  • Then He appeared to all the apostles.


Who was that "James"?   ...
  

James was the brother of Jesus, he later became the leader, the bishop, of the Jerusalem church.


After Paul became a Christian, he went to Jerusalem to meet the two chief Christian leaders -- Peter and James, "the Lord's brother."

...I went up to Jerusalem. I went there to get to know Peter. I stayed with him for 15 days.  I didn't see any of the other apostles. I only saw James, the Lord's brother. (Galatians 1:18-19)
Several stories in the New Testament describe James' leadership role in the Jerusalem church:
Acts 12:17Acts 15 (see verse 13)
Acts 21:18
Galatians 2:11-12
James had a top leadership role in the Jerusalem church.  So we may safely assume that the author of the New Testament letter of James was written by Jesus' younger brother.

I, James, am writing this letter. I serve God and the Lord Jesus Christ. 
I am sending this letter to you, the 12 tribes that are scattered among the nations. (James 1:1) 
Click the link below to read the whole article.
http://www.christdeaf.org/bible/BrothersOfJesus.html 

Did Jesus Do Miracles Before His Baptism?

Did Jesus do miracles before His baptism? 

 Some imaginary stories from I and II Infancy, dealing with Jesus' infancy stories might portray Jesus did miracles for Himself as a youth. These books are rejected by both Protestants and Roman Catholics. They contain Gnostic legends about Jesus as a youth. Jesus' youth was of great interest to them. One legend claims that Jesus and His mother met the two thieves who would eventually hang on the crosses next to Jesus. Another legend says that a woman's son was healed by being sprinkled with water that Jesus' bathed in. Others claim that Jesus changed people into animals, killed people who wanted to abuse Him, killed a boy who jumped on His shoulder, and "withered" a boy because he disturbed Jesus' play. In the legends Mary gives blessings and offers the forgiveness of sins. The legends were written long after the apostles died and went to heaven
 (A.D. 300).

     Jesus' Ministry: Jesus started His ministry when He was about thirty years old, according to Luke.
 

And when He began His ministry, Jesus Himself was about thirty years of age, being supposedly the son of Joseph, the son of Eli . . . (NASB) Luke 3:23

 

This occurred just after the following passage in Luke.
 


Now it came about when all the people were baptized, that Jesus also was baptized, and while He was praying, heaven was opened, and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “Thou art My beloved Son, in Thee I am well-pleased.” (NASB) Luke 3:21-22

 
So Jesus' ministry began with His baptism. There are no miracles of Jesus recorded in the gospels before that...

For more readings click the links below.

http://www.neverthirsty.org/pp/corner/read1/r00325.html 
http://coldcasechristianity.com/2013/did-jesus-work-miracles-as-a-child/

Did Jesus work miracles as a child?



Ever wonder if Jesus performed miracles as a young boy? There is an Islamic tradition related to the childhood of Jesus that seems to confirm Jesus’ miraculous display of power, even at a very young age. The Quran describes Jesus as a miracle working boy who was able to create birds from clay and raise the dead to life:
Then will Allah say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: ‘This is nothing but evident magic.’ (Qur’an, Surah 005.110)
Where did the Quran get this information about Jesus? It seems to come from a single pseudepigraphical gospel called the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. This ancient text is attributed to an author named “Thomas the Israelite” and it provides a number of stories related to the miraculous childhood of Jesus, chronicling the years missing in the canonical gospel of Luke. The Infancy Gospel of Thomas describes Jesus performing the very miracles mentioned in the Quran, along with additional mischievous (sometimes mean-spirited) supernatural acts. The pseudepigraphical gospel was popular in North African Coptic Christian communities and would certainly have been familiar to the author of Surah 5. For this reason, the Infancy Gospel of Thomas is most reasonably the source for the material in the Quran.
But there are many reasons to reject this portrayal of Jesus’ childhood. The Infancy Gospel was written well after the canonical Gospels (150-185AD) and the author seems unfamiliar with the Jewish life and customs of the 1st century. The text also presupposes the Gospel of Luke and must, therefore, have been written after Luke’s text was distributed and well known; the author is dependent upon Luke for his information related to the life of Jesus, the Sabbath and the Passover. It also appears that the early Church Fathers were aware of this late gospel and identified it as errant. Irenaeus appears to refer to it and includes it in his list of unreliable non-canonical documents described in “Against Heresies” (180AD). Hippolytus and Origen also refer to a Gospel of Thomas in their respective lists of heretical books (although it is unknown if they are referring to this text or the “sayings” Gospel of Thomas).
But there’s an even better reason to reject the claims of the Infancy Gospel of Thomas: They are in contradiction to the clear teaching of the reliable accounts from Luke and John. There is more than enough reason to trust the historicity of the canonical Gospels (I’ve described this evidence in depth in Cold-Case Christianity) and these trustworthy accounts directly contradict the claims of the Infancy Gospel. Luke, in the 4th chapter of his Gospel, describes the inhabitants of Nazareth responding in shock to Jesus’ initial messianic teaching. They seemed wholly unfamiliar that Jesus could be anything more than a common son of a carpenter. The Infancy Gospel of Thomas, however, describes Jesus as a brilliant child who performed a number of public miracles in Nazareth. Perhaps more importantly, John specifically tells us that Jesus first public “sign” (miracle) was performed at the wedding in Cana when Jesus turned water into wine (John 2:1-11). While the Infancy Gospel and the Quran claim that Jesus showed people “the clear Signs” throughout his childhood years, the reliable eyewitnesses accounts describe something very different.
The best and most reasonable inference from the ancient historical record related to Jesus is that He waited until his public ministry (as an adult) to reveal His power to His disciples and the world He came to save. Jesus did not perform miracles as a child.
- See more at: http://coldcasechristianity.com/2013/did-jesus-work-miracles-as-a-child/#sthash.m5s3zPJV.dpuf

Saturday, December 27, 2014

Did Herod the Great Kill the Innocent Babies of Bethlehem?



Dear Friends:

Have you ever doubted about the killing of innocent babies in Bethlehem by King Herod the Great? Here below is a good article by Gordon Franz MA giving great analysis of the whole historical massacre of innocent babies. ( I've pasted a few paragraphs down below)

We may wonder why Josephus didn't record this notorious massacre of those babies. First of all, the residents of that small village of Bethlehem only had about 300 people at that time, so the number of babies under 2 is not as big as the church tradition wants us to believe. 

Also, Paul L. Maier has pointed out, “Josephus wrote for a Greco-Roman audience, which would have little concern for infant deaths.  Greeks regularly practiced infanticide as a kind of birth control, particularly in Sparta, while the Roman father had the right not to lift his baby off the floor after birth, letting it die” (1998:179 Maier, Paul
1998 Herod and the Infants of Bethlehem.  Pp. 169-189 in Chronos, Kairos, Christos II.  Edited by E. J. Vardaman.  Macon, GA: Mercer University).

Josephus, even if he knew of the slaughter of the innocents, would have deemed this episode unimportant in light of all the other monumental events going on at the time of the death of Herod the Great, thus not including it in his writings.




To know more, please read the whole article in the following link.


EXCERPT 
In the December 2008 issue of National Geographic there was a well illustrated article on the recent excavations at the Herodian. This was the final burial place of Herod the Great, located 5 ½ kilometers southeast of Bethlehem as the angels fly. In the article, the author made this bold statement, reflecting current historical and theological understanding: “Herod is best known for slaughtering every male infant in Bethlehem in an attempt to kill Jesus. He is almost certainly innocent of this crime” (Mueller 2008:42). Was Herod the Great really innocent of this crime, or did this criminal act actually happen?


...The Historical Plausibility of the Slaughter of the Innocents

It is true; Josephus does not record the slaughter of the innocents in Bethlehem.  He does, however, record a number of ruthless murders by Herod in order to keep his throne secure.

Herod was crowned “King of the Jews” by the Roman Senate in 40 BC in Rome.  He was, however, a king without a kingdom.   Upon his return to the Land of Israel, he was given a Roman army and was eventually able to capture Jerusalem.  The first order of business was to eliminate his Hasmonean predecessors.  Mattathias Antigonus was executed with the help of Mark Antony and Herod killed 45 leading men of Antigonus’ part y in 37 BC (Antiquities 15:5-10; LCL 8:5-7).  He had the elderly John Hyrcanus II strangled over an alleged plot to overthrow Herod in 30 BC (Antiquities 15:173-178; LCL 8:83-85).

Herod continued to purge the Hasmonean family.  He eliminated his brother-in-law, Aristobulus, who was at the time an 18 year old High Priest.  He was drowned in 35 BC by Herod’s men in the swimming pool of the winter palace in Jericho because Herod thought the Romans would favor Aristobulus as ruler of Judea instead of him (Antiquities 15:50-56; LCL 8:25-29; Netzer 2001:21-25).  He also had his Hasmonean mother-in-law, Alexandra (the mother of Mariamme) executed in 28 BC (Antiquities 15:247-251; LCL 8:117-119).  He even killed his second wife Miriamme in 29 BC.  She was his beloved Hasmonean bride whom he loved to death [literally, no pun intended] (Antiquities 15:222-236; LCL 8:107-113).

Around 20 BC, Herod remitted one third of the people’s taxes in order to curry favor with them, however, he did set up an internal spy network and eliminated people suspected of revolt, most being taken to Hyrcania, a fortress in the Judean Desert (Antiquities 15:365-372; LCL 8:177-181).

Herod also had three of his sons killed.  The first two, Alexander and Aristobulus, the sons of Mariamme, were strangled in Sebaste (Samaria) in 7 BC and buried at the Alexandrium (Antiquities 16:392-394; LCL 8:365-367; Netzer 2001:68-70).  The last, only five days before Herod’s own death, was Antipater who was buried without ceremony at Hyrcania (Antiquities 17:182-187; LCL 8:457-459; Netzer 2001:75; Gutfeld 2006:46-61).

Herod the Great became extremely paranoid during the last four years of his life (8-4 BC).  On one occasion, in 7 BC, he had 300 military leaders executed (Antiquities 16:393-394; LCL 8:365).  On another, he had a number of Pharisees executed in the same year after it was revealed that they predicted to Pheroras’ wife [Pheroras was Herod’s youngest brother and tetrarch of Perea] “that by God’s decree Herod’s throne would be taken from him, both from himself and his descendents, and the royal power would fall to her and Pheroras and to any children they might have” (Antiquities 17:42-45; LCL 8:393).  With prophecies like these circulating within his kingdom, is it any wonder Herod wanted to eliminate Jesus when the wise men revealed the new “king of the Jews” had been born (Matt. 2:1-2)?! (For a full discussion of these historical events, see France 1979 and Maier 1998).

Macrobius (ca. AD 400), one of the last pagan writers in Rome, in his book Saturnalia, wrote: “When it was heard that, as part of the slaughter of boys up to two years old, Herod, king of the Jews, had ordered his own son to be killed, he [the Emperor Augustus] remarked, ‘It is better to be Herod’s pig [Gr. hys] than his son’ [Gr. huios]” (2.4.11; cited in Brown 1993:226).  Macrobius may have gotten some of his historical facts garbled, but he could have given us a chronological key as well.  If he was referring to the death of Antipater in 4 BC, the slaughter of the Innocents would have been one of the last, if not the last, brutal killings of Herod before he died.  What is also interesting is the word-play in the quote attributed to Augustus- “pig” and “son” are similar sounding words in Greek.  Herod would not kill a pig because he kept kosher, at least among the Jews; yet he had no qualms killing his own sons!

Why did Josephus not record this event?

There are several possible explanations as to why Josephus did not record this event.  First, Josephus, writing at the end of the first century AD may not have been aware of the slaughter in Bethlehem at the end of the first century BC.  There were some pivotal events in the first century AD that Josephus does not record.  For example, the episode of the golden Roman shields in Jerusalem which was the cause of the bad blood between Herod Antipas and Pontus Pilate (cf. Luke 23:12).  It was the Jewish philosopher, Philo of Alexandria that recorded this event (Embassy to Gaius 38:299-305; Maier 1969:109-121).  It should also be pointed out that Josephus got some of his information from Nicolas of Damascus who was Herod the Great's friend and personal historian.  Nicolas may not have recorded such a terrible deed so as not to blacken the reputation of his friend any more than he had too (Brown 1993:226, footnote 34).

Second, the massacre might not have been as large as later church history records.  The Martyrdom of Matthew states that 3,000 baby were slaughtered.  The Byzantine liturgy places the number at 14,000 and the Syrian tradition says 64,000 innocent children were killed (Brown 1993:205).  Yet Professor William F. Albright, the dean of American archaeology in the Holy Land, estimates that the population of Bethlehem at the time of Jesus’ birth to be about 300 people (Albright and Mann 1971:19).  The number of male children, two years old or younger, would be about six or seven (Maier 1998:178, footnote 25).  This would hardly be a newsworthy event in light of what else was going on at the time.  Please do not get me wrong, one innocent child being killed is a horrific tragedy.
 
Based on the date of Jesus’ birth provided by Clement of Alexandria (ca. 200 AD), Jesus would have been born on May 14, 6 BC (Faulstich 1998:109-112).  The wise men from the east do not arrive in Jerusalem to visit Herod and then go on to Bethlehem until at least 50 days after the birth of the Lord Jesus, but more than likely a year to a year and a half later.  When Mary performed the ritual of purification for her firstborn in the Temple she offered two turtledoves, the offering of the poor (Luke 2:22-24; cf. Lev. 12:8).  If the wise men had already arrived with their gold, frankincense and myrrh, Mary would have been obligated to offer a lamb and would have had the means to do so (Lev. 12:6).  Herod inquired of the wise men when the star first appeared and instructed them to go and find the “King of the Jews” and return and tell him so he could go and worship the young Child as well (Matt. 2:7-9).  Herod realized he was tricked when the wise men returned home another way after they were warned in a dream of Herod’s evil intentions (2:12).  Herod calculated the age of the young Child based on the testimony of the wise men as to when the star first appeared.  He ordered the killing of all male children in Bethlehem and its immediate vicinity who were two years old and younger (2:16).  Herod dies in March of 4 BC, just under two years from the birth of Jesus.

Right before he dies, Herod realizes nobody will mourn for him at his death.  He hatched a diabolical scheme to make sure everybody will morn at his death, even if it was not for him.  He ordered all the notable Jews from all parts of his kingdom to come to him in Jericho under penalty of death.  He placed them in the hippodrome of Jericho and left instructions for the soldiers to kill all the notables upon his death (Antiquities 17:174-181; LCL 8:451-455; Netzer 2001:64-67).  Fortunately, after the death of Herod, his sister Salome countermanded the order and released the Jewish leaders.  Ironically, Herod died on the Feast of Purim and there was much rejoicing at the death of Herod the Wicked (cf. Esther 8:15-17; Faulstich 1998:110)!

Five days before he died, Herod executed his oldest son Antipater (Antiquities 17:187; LCL 8:457-459).  During that time period he also executed, by burning alive, two leading rabbis and then executed their students for participating in the “eagle affair” in the Temple (Antiquities 17:149-167; LCL 8:439-449;Wars 1:655; LCL 2:311).

Paul L. Maier has pointed out, “Josephus wrote for a Greco-Roman audience, which would have little concern for infant deaths.  Greeks regularly practiced infanticide as a kind of birth control, particularly in Sparta, while the Roman father had the right not to lift his baby off the floor after birth, letting it die” (1998:179).

Josephus, even if he knew of the slaughter of the innocents, would have deemed this episode unimportant in light of all the other monumental events going on at the time of the death of Herod the Great, thus not including it in his writings.

Conclusions

The slaughter of the innocents is unattested in secular records, but the historical plausibility of this event happening is consistent with the character and actions of Herod the Great.  Besides killing his enemies, he had no qualms in killing family members and friends as well.  Herod would not have given a second thought about killing a handful of babies in a small, obscure village south of Jerusalem in order to keep his throne secure for himself, or his sons, even if it was one of the last dastardly deeds he committed before he died.  As Herod lay dying, raked in pain and agony, the men of God and those with special wisdom opined that Herod was suffering these things because it was “the penalty that God was exacting of the king for his great impiety” (Antiquities 17:170; LCL 8:449-451).

Herod’s Paranoia  by Gordon Franz MA

In 1988 I was attending a lecture at the Jerusalem Center for Biblical Studies by Dr. Isaiah Gafni, a leading authority on the Second Temple period at the Hebrew University. His topic was the life of Herod the Great. Sitting next to me was Dr. Bruce Narramore, a Christian psychologist from Biola University.

Dr. Gafni recounted a seminar that was held at Hebrew University a few years before. Attending it were historians and archaeologists of the Second Temple period as well as psychiatrists and psychologists. They laid out (figuratively speaking) Herod the Great on the psychiatric couch and preceded to psychoanalyze him. The historians explained a recurring pattern in the life of Herod. He would hear a rumor that somebody was going to bump him off and take over his throne, but Herod would kill that person first. He would then go into depression. After awhile he would come out of his depression and would build, build, build. He would hear another rumor and would kill that person, then go into another depression. After awhile he would come out of this depression and would build, build, build. This cycle repeated itself a number of times in which numerous people were killed, including one of his ten wives as well as three of his sons! The shrinks diagnosed Herod the Great as a paranoid schizophrenic.

After the lecture I turned to Dr. Narramore and asked his analysis of Herod: “Well, do you think he was a paranoid schizophrenic?”  Bruce laughed and said, “No, he was a jerk!”  [That is a direct quote!].  Recently a historical / psychological analysis was done on Herod the Great and he was diagnosed with Paranoid Personality Disorder (Kasher and Witztum 2007:431).


Saturday, December 20, 2014

Was David Wood Used to Be a Psychopath?

When David Wood was a boy, his dog was hit by a bus and died. Although his mother was terribly upset, he was not. He figured it was just a dog, now it’s dead, end of story. A few years later when a friend of his died, his response was largely the same. He didn’t feel any particular regret or remorse, but at the same time, largely owing to the very different responses of others, he sensed that maybe he should. Not everyone emotionally impaired in such a way turns violent, but he did. In years to follow, he extended his emotionally dead and unempathetic take on those around him by engaging in some horrifying acts, like brutally attacking his father with a hammer until he thought him dead (he wasn’t). Wood was convinced that right and wrong were fictions to be discarded at will and that the apathetic universe couldn’t care less how anyone acts.
The absence of empathy that Wood seemed to exhibit as a young boy is often indicative of psychopathy or sociopathy. Although sometimes these categories are treated interchangeably, some insist that there are crucial clinical differences between them. For example, some (like Chris Weller) suggest that, though both psychopaths and sociopaths tend to lack fear and disgust, sociopaths are more likely to be found holed up in their houses removed from society, while a psychopath is busy in his basement rigging shackles to his furnace. Psychopaths are dangerous, violent, cruel, and often sinister. Showing no remorse, they commit crimes in cold blood, crave control, behave impulsively, possess a predatory instinct, and attack proactively rather than as a reaction to confrontation.
In contrast, upbringing may play a larger role in a child becoming a sociopath than those diagnosed as psychopaths. Sociopaths project an appearance of trustworthiness or sincerity, but sociopathic behavior is actually conniving and deceitful. Often pathological liars, sociopaths are manipulative and lack the ability to judge the morality of a situation—not for lack of a moral compass (like we find in psychopaths), but because of agreatly skewed moral compass. Despite their differences, both psychopaths and sociopaths can wreak quite a bit of havoc and do much damage in people’s lives.

Since Wood was (1) remarkably unempathetic from such a young age, (2) seemingly lacking a sense of right and wrong rather than having a merely skewed sense of morality, and (3) engaging in extremely antisocial and violent behavior, perhaps this would suggest that he was more a psychopath than a sociopath. Since this is not my area of specialty, though, I am doing nothing more than offering my untutored guess. Yesterday the Gospel Coalition posted an article about Wood called “What Sociopaths Reveal to Us about the Existence of God.” For present purposes, we needn’t worry with the exactly right psychological diagnosis, but it bears pointing that, if anything, Wood seemed to be riddled with the more congenital, more entrenched, more debilitating of the two mental disorders, which is instructive. Wood wasn’t at all inclined to believe he should refrain from hurting others for fear he would thereby violate their “intrinsic value,” since this was a notion he scoffed at as a young man, thinking people were just biological machines for propagating DNA inhabiting a speck in a vast, empty, meaningless universe. For Wood was also, as a young man, an atheist, but this piece is not about his atheism. It’s rather about this mental phenomenon of psychopathy/sociopathy and its bearing on moral apologetics—and vice versa...

Friday, December 19, 2014

Is Koran Scientifically Accurate?

Is Koran scientifically accurate? And is it important for Muslims to know the truth? Is faith supposed to be above everything? Here below is the link to David Wood's testimony and a small section of the transcript of his interview.


(Former atheist David Wood (of Acts 17.net) shares his testimony about how he became a Christian. The video explains why he left atheism and surrendered to Jesus as Lord and Savior. Hear Apologetics 315's interview with David Wood here: Audio / Transcript.) (David Wood is an American evangelical missionary and philosophy lecturer. He is currently head of the Acts 17 Apologetics Ministry. He has degrees in philosophy and biology, and is pursuing a Ph.D. in the philosophy of religion at an academic institution in the State of New York. He has also been claimed to be a member of the Society of Christian Philosophers.)

..The most popular arguments that Muslims use are the Argument from Scientific Accuracy. So the Koran is supposedly a scientific masterpiece. It contains many scientific insights that were centuries ahead of our time and the Argument from Perfect Preservation which says the Koran has been perfectly preserved. That is a miracle. It is obviously the Word of God. 

Regarding the science, I don’t know what book they are reading. I open up the Koran and in Sura 18:86 tells us that Alexander the Great, which the Koran refers to as Zul-Qarnain. Zul-Qarnain travelled so far west, he found the name where the sun sets and found it setting in a pool of murky water.


So according to the Koran if you travel far enough west, you will actually find the place where the sun sets. The sun sets in a pool of murky water. Sura 67:5 and 37:6-10, they tell us that stars are missiles that God uses to shoot demons when they try to sneak into Heaven. The stars you see up in the sky, they are sitting there, they are missiles waiting to be thrown at demons trying to sneak into heaven and then when you see a shooting star, it is because God actually hurled one of these stars at a demon. Now that is wrong in multiple levels. Shooting stars aren’t really stars and shooting stars have nothing to do with hitting demons that try to sneak into Allah’s meeting room.


And you find over and over again in the Koran, these kinds of problems. Sura 65:12 says that there are these seven earths and according to the commentaries they are all flat. They are stacked up like pancakes except they have some space in between them. Sura 88:28 says that the earth is flat. 22:65 says that the sky is actually a solid object that Allah is holding up. If Allah weren’t holding up the sky, the sky would fall on us and over and over again in the Koran, you find these problems at every level. Those are all astronomy but you know, embryological development, Sura 80:6 for instance says that “semen is produced between the ribs and the spine.” So I don’t know what book Muslims are reading when they say it’s a scientific masterpiece. Some of these are really really absurd teachings – the idea that you could travel far enough west and find the place where the sun sets and the stars are missiles. So that’s a really really poor argument.


The other, this argument that the Koran has been perfectly preserved and therefore it is from God, well here again we find an even-if-but-in-fact situation. Even if the Koran were perfectly preserved, that wouldn’t mean that it’s from God. We have books that are older than the Koran. We have manuscripts of books that are older than the Koran. So you have entire manuscripts, let’s say manuscripts of the Bible. You have manuscripts of the Bible that are older than 1400 years and so if it’s a miracle for a book to survive 1400 years then you could prove that any book that has an old manuscript must be the word of God. So even if this were the case, even if the Koran were perfectly preserved, it wouldn’t mean it’s from God.


But then if we actually go to the Muslim sources themselves, we find all kinds of evidence that there were changes, that entire chapters came up missing, that large sections of chapters came up missing, that verses came up missing. Some of it is actually hilarious. For instance, the verse of stoning. We know Muslims stone people for adultery, but that’s not in the Koran. It was supposed to be in the Koran. It was revealed, and so we ask, “Wait a minute. In the Hadith, it says there is this verse in the Koran about stoning. What happened to it?” Well according to their own history books, Aisha, Muhammad’s wife had a copy of it, so it was written down, this verse of stoning an adulterer and a goat came in and ate the manuscript and so they didn’t have it anymore.

And you have all kinds of situations like that in Islam where everyone lost these chapters. We just didn’t recite these two large chapters and now we forgot them. So its situations where Muslims go, walk in and make an argument, let’s say on a college campus, “Hey. The Koran has been perfectly preserved. How is that possible?” And people actually convert based on some of these arguments and they are totally wrong. The slightest bit – 10 minutes of research would show that that is totally totally false...

A common objection from Muslims is the question of how God can die? How can God die? If you believe that God is eternal and something eternal can't die then how can God die?

The answer Wood gave was that Muslims believe something very similar about the Koran. The Koran - the speech of Allah - is one of God's eternal attributes. So it has no beginning. It is co-eternal with Allah. 

So according the Islamic theology, the Koran is uncreated. It has no beginning. It cannot be destroyed. So when Muslims raise the objection of God dying - Wood just picks up the Koran and asks "Does this book have a beginning?" Then what are we to make of the copyright in it? Moreover if the Koran has no beginning and cannot be destroyed what do we do with people like Pastor Terry Jones who have burned the Koran? 

~ I think that the above is really helpful.